Sunday, 18 September 2016

Open Forum - Fall 2016

The 45th anniversary of the Toronto Sun will be marked on Nov. 1, 2016. Have your say on the anniversary or any other Sun-related topic.

49 comments:

  1. What is happening with LFP, thought they were closing print site

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    1. Well the new page size and print job look wonderful. Sorry so many lost their jobs because of it, but it looks so much better.

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  2. I left the Sun over 4 months ago and haven't looked back. There is a life/career out there where you don't live in fear of closing any day. Good luck to all. For those who must stay, I really do hope for all of YOU there is much success in their future.

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  3. newsroom closed at 24 hours Vancouver

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  4. and so it starts
    http://globalnews.ca/news/3015786/postmedia-to-slash-salary-expenses-by-20-through-buyouts-possible-layoffs/

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    1. 20% is huge, not a good way to head to Christmas. Seems like the ol' Sun Media days. I think they'll be surprised at the number wanting to get out. I'm already to go, but helps that I have a job to go to as well.

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  5. The real problem thus far is that anyone who knew anything about the smaller community size papers have all been let go. Someone must understand that the local people now the markets they live and work in, sell advertising to as well as sell newspapers. We've been left with Toronto telling us what is good for OUR market, guess what it hasn't and won't work. Too late to turn back now. We've all been working like dogs, increased workload, no extra pay other than to be told to work harder. Well I think they might end up with more than 20% wanting to leave with a cheque in hand. Enough is enough.

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  6. Wonderful. Paul Godfrey back for 3 more years. Kinda like hiring the bus driver that keeps getting lost, yet another great move. Glad I'm leaving.

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  7. Any word on how the buyouts are being received? Are there enough volunteers to cover the 20 per cent cut? Otherwise, could be a very grim, Quebecor-like Christmas.

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  8. I know when I turned mine in, they were a little shocked. Apparently they don't have to accept it if you are considered a "key" person.

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    1. Is there anyone "that is a worker" left that is not key?

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    2. I was being sarcastic. So few left, to lose anyone at this point will just create more issues. For those that might be left (hopefully not me) I wish you all the very best of luck. Sadly this is just the beginning to a rapid end, there is nothing to re-negotiate or anything to sell. So in the end body count is all that is left.

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    3. Me too, that is the point everyone left is key. How can they make a decision who isn't. Oh easy, they don't have to do the extra work load that the people that are left have to do.

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  9. Starting Nov. 13, Fort McMurray Today will scale back their Monday to Friday plus free Saturday tabloid publishing schedule to just Tuesday and Friday plus a new Thursday edition called Fort McMurray This Week. http://www.fortmcmurraytoday.com/2016/11/08/editors-note-exciting-changes-coming-to-the-today-print-edition

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  10. It's been two days since the deadline. Anybody have any news?

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    1. The deadline was extended

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    2. People are saying their goodbyes.

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    3. Twenty took buyouts at the National Post newsroom. Any names from Sun papers?

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    4. Anybody know who's gone from Postmedia News Service in Hamilton?

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  11. Old news, but it appears the Postmedia printing plant in Kingsville has been shut down with the work being sent to an independently owned print shop in neighbouring Leamington.
    As I understand it, many of the workers from Kingsville did hook on with the independent Leamington operation, which is owned by Jim Heyens and Sheila McBrayne.

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  12. Was Peter Conradi in NIagara a buyout or did he leave on his own?

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    1. Probably both.

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    2. He is going to New Brunswick to be ME of the Daily Gleaner. That makes it three former Niagara journos within the last few months who have moved to New Brunswick for work.

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    3. Knowing Peter, he saw what was happening — or going to be happening — to the papers in Niagara and didn't want to be a part of it.

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  13. PM workers are LIVID over this
    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/postmedia-executives-receive-23-million-in-bonuses/article33009649/

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  14. While some are considering buyouts, PM lets the bonuses flow to execs.

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/postmedia-executives-receive-23-million-in-bonuses/article33009649/

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    1. I'm sure the rest of us will also be getting a retention bonus any minute now.......and the Maple Leafs will win the Stanley Cup this year.

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    2. Retention bonus for Godrey? Who would hire away a 77-year-old running a company into the ground? Despicable!

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    3. What a slap in the face (like we haven't been before) Some are sitting reading this thinking, optics? Are you kidding me? Godfrey went hat in hand looking for money from the feds, then must have forgotten to tell them part of that money was for his wallet. This is more than a slap it's a kick in the teeth to EVERY person working for this organization, and I use that term loosely. Even now the 20% reduction means valuable staff that actually do the work will be gone, the ones left will have to pick up the few pieces still remaining. Yet again Merry Christmas everyone, don't bother to put up a tree or decorate, no one around to take it down.

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  15. This:
    http://ipolitics.ca/2016/11/24/national-post-going-digital-only-memo-bb/

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    1. Wow. Then I must be a trend setter. :0) I used to edit two community papers for Sun Media. Left and started a print community independent operation in 2014 with my wife. We switched to digital only in 2015. (https://www.facebook.com/McLeodRiverPost/). Income plummeted but profits rose and continue to rise as people get used to the idea. Still have some way to go but we think we are going the right way.

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    2. We have a local indie paper in our market and they are kicking our butt. No one can concentrate on the job when you're not sure if you're still going to have it in a couple of weeks. Chat in the office is that not enough put in for the buyout, so layoffs will no doubt be in the offing. Merry freakin Christmas yet again.

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    3. Newspapers aren’t doomed to go the way of the dodo bird. Online marketing experts ay that ad blockers effects on online advertisers has been “tremendous” with advertising organizations estimating that by 202 $35 billion per year will be lost to online businesses as a result of blocked ads. Did you catch that? By 202 $35 billion per year will be lost to online businesses as a result of blocked ads.
      People see installing ad blockers as a way to regain control of their online experience – ad free. Newspapers won’t die. People said they would when telegraphs came on scene, then radio, then TV, then Internet. Start your own publication in your market but don’t be online only. It’s really not the solution.

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    4. I concur. But we're not online. We're digital. We have a large subscriber base across four counties. Subscribers receive the paper by email for free. We also encourage subscribers to share, which they do. One says he shares with 300 willing contacts. We also publish the paper to PressReader and Facebook where it can be downloaded. Customers that advertise have their ad linked to their website, email or social media, whichever they prefer. We are not affected by ad blockers whatsoever. The paper can be read on pretty much any device. We just don't print and distribute anymore and are free of all the costs and headaches that go with it.

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    5. This is why SunMedia and Postmedia have been failing all this time. Denial of reality. "Stick to print" has been the rallying cry. There are ways to put advertising on the internet that adblockers don't block. Look into them, get innovative, go with the future instead of the rapidly collapsing (and now mostly collapsed) past. Online IS working, for some who aren't trying to apply print rules to it.

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    6. Ian I appreciate your input. I will look into PressReader. I started a weekly newspaper more than two years ago after being cut by Sun Media and it makes a profit. We distribute a print free edition and a free email distribution. We also link customers' ads from our website to their Facebook pages or websites. Just wondering how advertisers received a digital only paper?

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    7. No worries. We keep the file size small (usually 2-3MB and email it out to subscribers. We hyperlink all the ads. We also use the publish online facility to publish on Social Media. This does not work well with large files. :0) PressReader upload is a larger file.

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  16. So the story says who's gone from the NP. Any word at the Toronto Sun, which is in the same building? Or other Suns for that matter?

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  17. The fact is, this is nothing new in the land of corporate media. And the outrage will certainly fall on deaf ears and an indifferent public.

    I know for a fact that after every Christmas massacre during the Quebecor years, executives and senior suits (publishers, EICs and ad managers) got hefty end-of-year bonuses.

    Godfrey and Co., just like PKP and his yes-men before them, are cashing out before the ship completely goes under.

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  18. Yes if they didn't take those bonuses they could save every job they are cutting. They could give everyone a raise (remember those?)and probably still have some money left over. God knows "most" workers get paid very little. 3 days to find out if they reached their target of the buyout or if there will be layoffs. Nice.

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  19. https://www.thebeaverton.com/2016/11/postmedia-re-hires-laid-off-journalists-cater-office-christmas-party/
    WHAT?? Could this be real, servers? WOW

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    1. The Beaverton is a comedy site. Or at least tries to be.

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  20. 48 gone at Postmedia Editorial Services in Hamilton.

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  21. Just heard on Friday that remaining Ad Production Artists at Edmonton Journal/Sun are being laid off, about 5 or 6 total. Anyone able to confirm

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  22. Should have said that these were 6 Graphic Designers at the Edmonton Journal/Sun. Last day is December 16. All Online and Print Ad production is being centralized in Ontario. But mostly done in the Phillipines.
    Fun fact: When offshoring of ad production started some years ago (after Postmedia took over) it cost the Journal $25,000 per month

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  23. Did anyone think this process was going to work well given the past projects that have come up. Total mess. They should have just said that they were closing places and be done with it. Oh and if they didn't notice how this affected staff moral...well it made it WORSE than it already was. Advertisers have been asking if we're even going to be printing a daily anymore. So people are noticing on the outside looking in.

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  24. Curious. There are reports of buyouts at the PM broadsheets - the Post (25 people out of editorial), the Herald, the Journal. But nothing so far from any of the Suns (although in Ottawa, Edmonton and Calgary, the newsrooms are merged, so it's murkier). Any cuts coming at the Toronto Sun or Canoe? Or Winnipeg? Did the former Sun Media escape the 20 per cent reduction in salary or is the worst to come?

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